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    Default St Jude's Church, Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton

    Difficult to get good shots of the exterior because of the trees.











    St Jude's in 1868



    and in 1911.




























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    Default Re: St Jude's Church, Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton

    Cracking photographs as usual. Built at a cost of 2000-00. What price a rebuild?

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    Default Re: St Jude's Church, Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton

    It just wouldn't be possible to build a copy of a Victorian church now. I wonder how much they'd estimate the cost to be?

    Perhaps that's partly why I find most post-1940 church buildings to be so uninspiring. The budget for their design and building is probably comparatively smaller.

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    Default Re: St Jude's Church, Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton

    Bernice
    If you didn't watch ITV on last Tuesday evening they ran a programme called Missing Millions. One of the stories featured was about a lady, Mary Stokes, 1810 – 1886, who paid for the building of St. Judes Church. At a cost of 2000-00 about 135 years ago. The vicar in the clip puts that at 200.000.00 in modern terms. An unassuming lady there is no mention of her or her generosity within the Church. She also purchased the land to build St. Jude's School in Riches Street and contributed 1000-00 to Wolverhampton Royal Orphanage and 500-00 to the Blue Coat School, bear in mind this was when a domestic servant would cost you 10-00 a year. Her ability to do this came about as her two brothers died early, and being the remaining child, the family fortune was willed to her. Never marrying, she was able to use the money as she wished. In Victorian times although a wife could have money it was deemed to be the property of her husband. She died in 1886 leaving an Estate worth 146,307-17-6d.
    To the people who say well these things don't matter, it's all in the past, her actions affected my family, my father going to both The Royal Orphanage and The Blue Coat school, and I joined the St. Jude's Wolf Cub pack in the late 40's.

    Ok, you will have to sit through five minutes of ads. but the excerpt is quite informative and raises more questions. How did her family amass such a fortune, the name Stokes doesn’t ring any bells. Was he a landowner, if he was a manufacturer, what did he make? Mary’s Birth Certificate states the Parish of Willenhall, known when I was a kid in the next Parish as Humphire. They all had humps on their backs from bending over work benches filing locks. That’s one hell of a lot of money to make out of locks. Even if at that time Willenhall made 90% of the locks in the world. Where was the family home? Did Mary stay there all her life? Has anyone got a Directory of that time, telling us these things?

    I think you can watch the programme for the next 20 days, which contains scenes of the Wolverhampton Archives, St. Jude's Church and School and The Royal Orphanage. The Mary Stokes story starts eleven minutes in.

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    Default Re: St Jude's Church, Tettenhall Road, Wolverhampton

    The details differ slightly in the 188o Kellys directory, the total cost being given as over £5000:
    St. Jude's was formed in 1848; the church, situated on the Tettenhall road, is in the Gothic style, erected mainly by the munificence of Miss Stokes, who gave the site for the
    building and £2,000 towards its endowment, and £1,050 was raised by subscription; this church cost upwards of
    £5,000 : it consists of chancel, transepts, nave and aisles,and was consecrated by the Bishop of Lichfield in April, 1869: there is a fine reredos and stained east window to the
    memory of Mrs. Mander, erected by her husband, C. B.Mander esq.: an organ was placed here in 1874. Ttie register dates from the year 1869. The living is a vicarage, yearly
    value about £450, in the gift of five trustees and held by the Rev. Stephen Condon Adam M.A. of St. John's College, Cambridge.
    Stokes is a common name in Staffordshire. Whites 1851 directory lists many. however Willenhall does have a William Stokes, gentleman, and a maltster named William Stokes. These may be the same (minimal detail of addresses etc is in th early directories) there is also listed a Mary Stokes , farmer at Bednal, but that is not very close to Willenhall or Tettenhall. In 1834 there is just (in Wwillenhall) the same William Stokes and a Benjamin Stokes, also listed as gentleman
    The census of 1851 shows William Stokes , gentleman to live in Walsall ST, and to be 75 and living with his wife Jane (60). no Mary, so if it was this family she had left home. That year I can find no Mary Stokes living in Tettenhall. Wolverhampton had four, the likely one being right age, daughter of Eelizabeth Stokes (69) born Bath, both listed as landed proprietor , living at St John Square, wolverhampton
    There is also a Mary, wife to chaplain of the Wwolverhampton union (workhouse) who is 38. others are relative paupers and wrong age, but i think the landed proprietor is most likely
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